Full battery should last at least 10 Hours. My 10U is good for max 5 hours.
What can I do to renew this battery.
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David Stephens I'm curious too but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you'll hear nothing from Sena support. I'm lucky to get 5 hours as well on my Neotec 10U.
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Bart Vanderkelen Yes and i m sure it is software problem. But sena won't do something. It's my woman s neotec. I bave the shubert c3 and this works fine . Even more then 10 hours. I was thinking to buy the neotec 2 for her but if there is no support from sena this is not an option.
I was thinking to install the shuberth software in to the neotec. I don't now it's ok and maybe the neotec won't accept this software. Please Sena give an answer. -
Bart Vanderkelen I can tell you also the remote controller isn't water resistant. I had water
In the controller and stopped working. Opened and let the water out for a Koppel of hour. Than was ok. So i put it in a plastic bag now. -
Colin Balfour The battery is inside the left earpiece.
This battery on eBay would appear to be a direct replacement
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183724915731
Whether or not you fancy an unbranded Chinese lipo battery right next to your ear when fake li-po and li-ion on ebay have been known to catch fire, is a different question.
502530 stands for 5.0mm x 25mm x 30mm.
3.7v lithium polymer
You'd want at least 300 mah as per the OEM battery.
If anybody finds a more reputable source for these please post it!
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Scott Thanks for that. I'd not have looked there first. I was about to try to dissect one of mine.
What I'd consider doing is mount a higher Wh (higher capacity) battery somewhere else. That would go a long ways toward fixing it. And, if you rigged it right, one could swap batteries with a spare "on the fly" if one died. Just have to find a convenient spot and a way to house it.
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Colin Balfour Yes, trying to avoid mounting somewhere else, but just found this which is a UK seller, CE marked, and the company seem to be fairly reputable
https://www.allbatteries.co.uk/smartwatch-battery-for-apple-3-7v-300mah-aml0215.html
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Scott Wonder what the 10R has in it? My primary riding buddy has one of those. His never dies. Mine won't make to lunch somedays when we have intercom on.
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Scott Google's your buddy, looked it up. Not only is it removable and mounted on the rear of the helmet, it is 500mAh. 40% bigger. And, you can buy the battery pack for $35 USD on ebay including the mount. You'd have to work out some sort of connector from the old (ear) plug to the new one but that should be doable.
Alternatively, finding a 500mAh for the ear side would be nice. Unless it catches fire LOL.
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Nick Boyle I've had two replacement controllers. At no point have I been told it's not waterproof.
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Al Corelli Hey Scott,
Do you have a link for that 500ma battery?
And, for the record, I have 2 10Us. One in a C3Pro, and one in a Neotech. No matter which one I wear, they both last only about 4hrs.
We in my rider group are not so techy and we keep them in Group Intercom, rather than try to figure out a better method. So, with two or three riders in Group Intercom, we get about 4hrs of power. The other 2 guys have Neotechs with 10Us as well.
EDIT: Found a bunch on ebay. 200mah, 1000mah. both under 10 bucks shipped.
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Scott Al: I've seen 2 versions of it. One is battery only:
Same thing but with a little USB adapter that would allow direct charging of the battery via USB I guess.
Same battery. The one the 10R uses. There's usually only 2 of us and we keep the intercom on all the time. I also have a phone connected via bluetooth for my radar detector signal that comes from the phone. And for phone calls if one comes in (rare). Normally we are just on intercom, I do good to last 4 hours with the stock battery, like you.
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Scott You can see how that battery is installed on this 10R quick guide. Just sticks on the back of the helmet.
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Al Corelli Thank you for your assistance. I will look into it further.
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Scott Correction to Colin's report. The battery is in the RIGHT earpiece. Takes a T8 torx to get screws out.
I've found several 500mA batteries that are small enough to stick onto the rear, center Sena helmet part. The one that clips at the rear has a nice flat spot suitable for sticking something to. One such battery measures 2.1" x .6" x .23" as was about $8 USD. Just have to work out a longer cord from earpiece to battery at rear and bob's your uncle. Simple splice and some shrinkwrap should do it. Not as spiffy as the sena kit, but a quarter the cost, too. Might try it.
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Scott As I looked into this I was about to pull the trigger on a larger battery. But I found a fly in the soup. There's a second battery. With the earpiece battery disconnected, I more by accident than anything, powered the 10U on. Turned right on to my surprise since what I thought was THE batter was out sitting on my desk. Since the left earpiece only has a PCB (no battery), that means there's a second battery in that little block that hooks to the rear. And that little block is sealed shut, no way to open without some Dremeling as far as I can tell. If someone gets their's open, please do tell how.
So if you add a new battery to the earpiece it's not going to be a good solution because it needs to be in balance with the other battery. And if you wanted to do a larger battery like I was about to do, that's no good either because they won't charge right together. :/
So close.... damn. At least I hadn't ordered the parts yet.
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Colin Balfour Nice spot Scott, I did wonder if there was a second battery in there, 300mah isn't a lot to run the thing for a full day. Until I opened the earpiece, I thought that rear section where the charger plugs in was the battery.
I am still going to replace the earpiece battery like for like and see what that does to usage time. At the moment I'm getting 3 hours if I'm lucky, even if I can get that back up to 5 or 6 hours I'm better off.
If not I'll have a go at opening the rear section, it looked to me as if it might prise open by inserting a scalpel, but that rear section is on the outside of the helmet and would no longer be waterproof then so I'll try to avoid it.
I have nothing to loose by pulling it apart really, because if I don't get the battery life sorted on my 3 year old out of warranty unit, I'll have to shell out 220 quid for a complete new replacement because I'm keeping the Shoei Neotec at least another 2 years.
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Colin Balfour PS: When the unit was new I used to be able to ride a 500 mile day, and have it switched on for 12-14 hours and although I would charge it at night, it never ran out. Then I had a speaker blow. I was just out of warranty but as a goodwill gesture Sena sent me a recon replacement, but I've never been able to get more than 5 or 6 hours out of it, now I'm down to 3 hours it's become a problem.
I'll be surprising my 11 year old with his first bike tomorrow and teaching him to ride it (clutch and manual gearbox) I am disabled and I cant run alongside him, so I MUST be in contact with him helmet to helmet while learns and I ride alongside.
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Jason Sobell This article is for the 10U, and the battery is on the back of the helmet, not in the right earpiece.
For the Shoei it's a tiny 300maH LiPo battery type 701535.
That means it's 7mm thick, 15mm wide and 35mm long (with a PCB making it about 40mm altogether).
What's a pain is that the battery case is glued shut. You can open it if you're careful with a mobile phone opening tool, but 300maH is never going to give you much talk time given that the thing takes about 2min to go into standby every time the phone dings.
I ordered a couple of other similar sizes with larger capacity to see if I can modify the unit to hold one, because I'm sick of the message "Battery is low" followed by power-off 2mins later, leaving me lost with no navigation instructions :) -
Scott The 10U for the Shoei Neotec has 2 batteries. One in the sealed case in the back, one in the right earpiece. So you have 600mA combined. I chicken'd out on trying to open the rear sealed case and sold it. Got a 10R instead, with it's external battery. I'd have preferred to add an external battery to the 10U.
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Trailryder07 when I was at the cycle show in Chicago back in Feb, the guys in the Sena booth said they were working on being able to offer a service to replace batteries in the 10U. Might check to see if that is avail yet.
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